When the best information that you find on a political party comes from the Southern Poverty Law Center, well to say that is telling is an understatement.
American Third Position Party or A3P as they like to call themselves are a hate group according the Southern Poverty Law Center and by the Anti-Defamation League.
If you are not interested in hearing about a hate group, I will not fault you for skipping over this podcast.
If you are not interested in hearing about a hate group, I will not fault you for skipping over this podcast.
So if anyone is still listening. I will try to be objective I will try not to be influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing information.
However I will call out bad information and lies.
Okay, Lets start with the positions of this political party. I have used their own official website as the source for this information.
However I will call out bad information and lies.
Okay, Lets start with the positions of this political party. I have used their own official website as the source for this information.
"Crime. Taking back our communities."
"Our country has become unrecognizingly dangerous... Our people (I assume that they mean white people) have had to alter their everyday behaviors to simply keep from being victimized by predators roaming the streets. While the ruling elites drone on endlessly about the rights of criminals, the happiness and welfare of our people has been sacrificed at the altar of political correctness."
"We will put these common sense principles into practice without delay: Enable police to concentrate on real criminals and serve the public welfare, not the political goals of the ruling elite. Permit victims of crime greater freedom to defend themselves and their property. Introduce automatic sentences for repeat offenders who prey on our communities. Support states rights to enforce capital punishment for those convicted of capital crimes. Make prisoners understand that they are being punished, and not rewarded with a state-subsidized vacation for their crimes; in part through wide-scale obligatory public-works projects."
Based on those statements it is more than fair to say that the A3P believes that America has become unrecognizingly dangerous and that predators are roaming the streets. This is an unfounded statement and it sounds a lot like the plot to the movie Robocop.
Yes there are some places that can be called dangerous in America. However, the the fact is America's crime rate has been falling across the board. Even in a economic downturn crime is still falling.
I do not know who these people are that are droning endlessly on about the rights of criminals. Nor do they make clear of whom they are speaking of.
What is clear is that A3P believes in the right to self-defense. I can only guess that this means that they are supporters of gun rights. One odd statement they make is the following: "Permit victims of crime greater freedom to defend themselves and their property." Which sounds like they believe that a person can only defend themselves and property after they have become a victim. I do not think that this is their intent.
A3P wants automatic sentences for repeat offenders, I think that this means they want something along the lies of the Three Strikes Laws. Also, they support the death penalty and state that jail is a vacation. They support the use of prison labor for public works. Which is something that differentiates them from most political parties.
It is fair to say that A3P is a law and order party.
On to their next position again this is quoted right off their website with some mild trimming on my part:
"Economy:
The American Third Position supports a nationalist economic policy emphasizing ethical business practices and prioritization of the community. A3P supports “fair trade” as opposed to the so-called “free trade” policies... This can be accomplished through tariffs and quotas at home along with diplomatic pressure abroad. Under this America first system, we would also withdraw from NAFTA, GATT, and the WTO.
Current tax policies often dis-incentivize invention and entrepreneurship. Tax dollars are aggressively collected from our people and funneled to so-called minorities, criminals, and persons unwilling to work. We will cut all programs that provide an incentive for people to be anything other than hard-working and productive.
The Federal Reserve – a central bank made up of privately-owned member banks – loans money to our government at interest. Commercial banks also create money through lending to businesses and citizens. Both practices involve creating money out of thin air. To restore ownership of the American economy to its rightful owners, we will abolish the Federal Reserve, incorporating it into the United States Treasury. We will then grant government the sole right to print, issue and regulate money. Accordingly, the entire banking system would be subject to appropriate ethical constraints."
For anyone that is familiar with right wing or libertarian economic positions will find nothing unique in the A3P positions. However, they say the following "Tax dollars are aggressively collected from our people and funneled to so-called minorities, criminals, and persons unwilling to work." Of what the referring to is hard to say. There is Tax Incentives for Using a Minority-Owned Business. Or it could be an statement against welware programs. It is not really clear.
Now for their views on Education:
"Education. Not Indoctrination.
The same schools that once taught our children the knowledge, skills, culture, and traditions necessary to maintain and enhance our nation are now controlled by social Marxists....
We support measures to restore our school system to its first rate status. Teachers must emphasize traditional mathematics and literacy skills which have practical application to everyday life. A full curriculum of American history must also be taught.... Organized classrooms settings and well-disciplined learning environments must become the norm once again. We also support greater opportunities for home-schooling arrangements.
Critically, we would introduce a compulsory Community Service system after the student completes their schooling – whenever that may be – to instill in them a work ethic, discipline, and social and community values. Projects would consist of caring for the elderly and handicapped, environmental and heritage restoration projects, or military training.
Service in this system would entitle each individual to get something back from the society to which they have learnt to contribute, such as subsidized university education or apprenticeship, and/or business training and start-up capital for would-be entrepreneurs."
I looked up the word social Marxists and found the following on the Urban Dictionary: "A social Marxist is someone who half heartidly believes in the Marxist school of political though. They may be anti capitalist, anti war and anti racism, but wont join up a Marxist movement and are more like armchair generals of the far left persuasion. Left wing forums are rife with social Marxists. Some social Marxists simply buy CCCP flags, shirts and hats and have a faint idea what its about, but have no foundations for their ideology"
I do not think that this is what the A3P is referring to. Even though it was the only place that I could find a definition of the term. But maybe it is. Either way it is an odd statement. It should go without say that evidence of this Marxist hold on education is non-existent.
Outside of that statement there is not much of anything unique to found in there education position. The A3P supporting home schooling and believes in compulsory Community Service for students. The latter policy is unique when compared to the major parties.
As for their views on the Environment:
"Environment. Taking responsibility.
The American Third Position is committed to a beautiful, clean and healthy nation. We are this country’s only true Green party with policies that will actually save the environment. Overpopulation, fueled by massive Third World immigration, is a major cause of the destruction to our environment.
Many Americans recognize the serious trouble associated with dependency on oil from abroad. We must diligently explore and develop cleaner energy sources such as solar, wind and biomass. In keeping with our free enterprise system, individuals, businesses and industry should be encouraged to tap into these abundant non-polluting sources."
Immigrates cause the destruction of the environment. To be frank I have never heard that claim before. Thus I did some research and found the following by Scientific American:
"The non-profit Pew Research Center reports that 82 percent of U.S. population growth is attributable to immigration...
Americans, consumption habits, are fundamental to U.S. environmental problems than population pressures. With just five percent of the world’s people, Americans use a quarter of the world’s fossil fuels, own more private cars than drivers with licenses, and live in homes that are on average 38 percent larger today than they were in 1975. By scaling back, Americans can take a big bite out of pollution, sprawl and other environmental problems, while also setting a good example for those who land in the U.S. every year, lowering the nation’s collective carbon footprint significantly in the process."
Furthermore, if population densities is any indicator American is at no risk of overpopulation.
Anyway, their environmental views for the most part fall in line with what Democrats often argue. Not the overpopulation or immigration part but the invest in alternatives and cut the dependency on oil.
Carrying on the A3P quote: "rejects homosexuality and all of the other types of so-called “alternative lifestyles”." I have not a clue what "alternative lifestyles" they are referencing and what they would do to those people and homosexuals if elected. Their stance is nothing new for anyone who is familiar with right wing politics.
The A3P's Foreign Policy can neatly be summed up as non-interventionist. Furthermore they state they following. "We must withdraw from the United Nations and NATO and close most of the hundreds of overseas military bases. At the same time, we must maintain a strong military for legitimate defense, such as better protection of our borders."
The statement is very close to those that have been and still are made by Ron Paul and other Libertarians.
The A3P has very clear stance on Immigration the following is right off of their website:
"1 We will deport all illegal and criminal aliens.
2 We will impose massive penalties for employing or assisting them.
3 We will use the U.S. military for border security and build an impenetrable southern fence.
4 We will immediately put an indefinite moratorium on all immigration.
5 We will provide immigrants and their children who have become citizens since 1965 with generous grants to assist their voluntary return to their respective countries of origin.
6 We will also eliminate birthright citizenship, chain migration and asylum."
1 -4 is not anything all that different from most anti-immigration stances. However, 5, 6 are. To be honest here number 5 would affect my parents and it seems like it would be rather costly and confusing. Since there are many children who have one parent that was a citizen and other than was an immigrant. Moreover how would country of origin be proved.
Also, the elimination of birthright citizenship would affect just about every American, other than those that passed a citizen test. I do not know if they mean that very American must pass a citizen test in order to be an American or if this only applies to those that are not white. Bear in mind no distinction is made.
There next stance is on National Defense.
It is just a rehash of their foreign policy. The only difference is this stance "We should, in no way, share our technologies and operational plans with other nations." and an error was made "As President, I will implement these policies and strengthen our national defense." This is the party's website not the candidate. So that is a little slip up on their part.
Moreover America is the biggest arms exporter and I do not know if technologies applies to arms and armaments.
Now for they last position to quote the A3P:
"Race Issues
A nation’s character is determined by its people – and racial demographics are a primary determinant... we have been undermined by internationalists seeking to destroy the “liberty, sovereignty, and identity” of America.
American values, heritage, and even language are under massive assault and we are quickly degenerating from a predominantly White, Christian nation — which led the world by its positive example — to a third world “tower of Babel”.
This is bizarre and not happening by accident. During the 20th century, socialist global elites hijacked American institutions and media, and began indoctrinating our people into accepting “cultural Marxism” and “political correctness” — complete with multiculturalism, miscegenation, radical feminism and unnatural characterizations.
A3P stands to protect White American interests, since no other political party has shown interest in doing so. This does not make us racist, but protective of our rights – which every other race or group is encouraged and praised for doing. Discriminatory “affirmative action” programs and the invasion of illegal immigrants adversely affect the welfare of all Americans, but especially the White majority.
The goal of A3P is therefore to restore and preserve the legitimacy of White identity, White heritage, and expressions of White interests. We want to stop the divisive, orchestrated destruction of America and restore her to greatness."
For those that have been waiting for the evidence of the A3P being a White Power group there it is. While they do go out of their way to state that they are not racist, it does fall a little flat.
So there are the American Third Position polices and positions. On their website they have Position Papers which go into more detail on there views and goals.
On to their next position again this is quoted right off their website with some mild trimming on my part:
"Economy:
The American Third Position supports a nationalist economic policy emphasizing ethical business practices and prioritization of the community. A3P supports “fair trade” as opposed to the so-called “free trade” policies... This can be accomplished through tariffs and quotas at home along with diplomatic pressure abroad. Under this America first system, we would also withdraw from NAFTA, GATT, and the WTO.
Current tax policies often dis-incentivize invention and entrepreneurship. Tax dollars are aggressively collected from our people and funneled to so-called minorities, criminals, and persons unwilling to work. We will cut all programs that provide an incentive for people to be anything other than hard-working and productive.
The Federal Reserve – a central bank made up of privately-owned member banks – loans money to our government at interest. Commercial banks also create money through lending to businesses and citizens. Both practices involve creating money out of thin air. To restore ownership of the American economy to its rightful owners, we will abolish the Federal Reserve, incorporating it into the United States Treasury. We will then grant government the sole right to print, issue and regulate money. Accordingly, the entire banking system would be subject to appropriate ethical constraints."
For anyone that is familiar with right wing or libertarian economic positions will find nothing unique in the A3P positions. However, they say the following "Tax dollars are aggressively collected from our people and funneled to so-called minorities, criminals, and persons unwilling to work." Of what the referring to is hard to say. There is Tax Incentives for Using a Minority-Owned Business. Or it could be an statement against welware programs. It is not really clear.
Now for their views on Education:
"Education. Not Indoctrination.
The same schools that once taught our children the knowledge, skills, culture, and traditions necessary to maintain and enhance our nation are now controlled by social Marxists....
We support measures to restore our school system to its first rate status. Teachers must emphasize traditional mathematics and literacy skills which have practical application to everyday life. A full curriculum of American history must also be taught.... Organized classrooms settings and well-disciplined learning environments must become the norm once again. We also support greater opportunities for home-schooling arrangements.
Critically, we would introduce a compulsory Community Service system after the student completes their schooling – whenever that may be – to instill in them a work ethic, discipline, and social and community values. Projects would consist of caring for the elderly and handicapped, environmental and heritage restoration projects, or military training.
Service in this system would entitle each individual to get something back from the society to which they have learnt to contribute, such as subsidized university education or apprenticeship, and/or business training and start-up capital for would-be entrepreneurs."
I looked up the word social Marxists and found the following on the Urban Dictionary: "A social Marxist is someone who half heartidly believes in the Marxist school of political though. They may be anti capitalist, anti war and anti racism, but wont join up a Marxist movement and are more like armchair generals of the far left persuasion. Left wing forums are rife with social Marxists. Some social Marxists simply buy CCCP flags, shirts and hats and have a faint idea what its about, but have no foundations for their ideology"
I do not think that this is what the A3P is referring to. Even though it was the only place that I could find a definition of the term. But maybe it is. Either way it is an odd statement. It should go without say that evidence of this Marxist hold on education is non-existent.
Outside of that statement there is not much of anything unique to found in there education position. The A3P supporting home schooling and believes in compulsory Community Service for students. The latter policy is unique when compared to the major parties.
As for their views on the Environment:
"Environment. Taking responsibility.
The American Third Position is committed to a beautiful, clean and healthy nation. We are this country’s only true Green party with policies that will actually save the environment. Overpopulation, fueled by massive Third World immigration, is a major cause of the destruction to our environment.
Many Americans recognize the serious trouble associated with dependency on oil from abroad. We must diligently explore and develop cleaner energy sources such as solar, wind and biomass. In keeping with our free enterprise system, individuals, businesses and industry should be encouraged to tap into these abundant non-polluting sources."
Immigrates cause the destruction of the environment. To be frank I have never heard that claim before. Thus I did some research and found the following by Scientific American:
"The non-profit Pew Research Center reports that 82 percent of U.S. population growth is attributable to immigration...
Americans, consumption habits, are fundamental to U.S. environmental problems than population pressures. With just five percent of the world’s people, Americans use a quarter of the world’s fossil fuels, own more private cars than drivers with licenses, and live in homes that are on average 38 percent larger today than they were in 1975. By scaling back, Americans can take a big bite out of pollution, sprawl and other environmental problems, while also setting a good example for those who land in the U.S. every year, lowering the nation’s collective carbon footprint significantly in the process."
Furthermore, if population densities is any indicator American is at no risk of overpopulation.
Anyway, their environmental views for the most part fall in line with what Democrats often argue. Not the overpopulation or immigration part but the invest in alternatives and cut the dependency on oil.
Carrying on the A3P quote: "rejects homosexuality and all of the other types of so-called “alternative lifestyles”." I have not a clue what "alternative lifestyles" they are referencing and what they would do to those people and homosexuals if elected. Their stance is nothing new for anyone who is familiar with right wing politics.
The A3P's Foreign Policy can neatly be summed up as non-interventionist. Furthermore they state they following. "We must withdraw from the United Nations and NATO and close most of the hundreds of overseas military bases. At the same time, we must maintain a strong military for legitimate defense, such as better protection of our borders."
The statement is very close to those that have been and still are made by Ron Paul and other Libertarians.
The A3P has very clear stance on Immigration the following is right off of their website:
"1 We will deport all illegal and criminal aliens.
2 We will impose massive penalties for employing or assisting them.
3 We will use the U.S. military for border security and build an impenetrable southern fence.
4 We will immediately put an indefinite moratorium on all immigration.
5 We will provide immigrants and their children who have become citizens since 1965 with generous grants to assist their voluntary return to their respective countries of origin.
6 We will also eliminate birthright citizenship, chain migration and asylum."
1 -4 is not anything all that different from most anti-immigration stances. However, 5, 6 are. To be honest here number 5 would affect my parents and it seems like it would be rather costly and confusing. Since there are many children who have one parent that was a citizen and other than was an immigrant. Moreover how would country of origin be proved.
Also, the elimination of birthright citizenship would affect just about every American, other than those that passed a citizen test. I do not know if they mean that very American must pass a citizen test in order to be an American or if this only applies to those that are not white. Bear in mind no distinction is made.
There next stance is on National Defense.
It is just a rehash of their foreign policy. The only difference is this stance "We should, in no way, share our technologies and operational plans with other nations." and an error was made "As President, I will implement these policies and strengthen our national defense." This is the party's website not the candidate. So that is a little slip up on their part.
Moreover America is the biggest arms exporter and I do not know if technologies applies to arms and armaments.
Now for they last position to quote the A3P:
"Race Issues
A nation’s character is determined by its people – and racial demographics are a primary determinant... we have been undermined by internationalists seeking to destroy the “liberty, sovereignty, and identity” of America.
American values, heritage, and even language are under massive assault and we are quickly degenerating from a predominantly White, Christian nation — which led the world by its positive example — to a third world “tower of Babel”.
This is bizarre and not happening by accident. During the 20th century, socialist global elites hijacked American institutions and media, and began indoctrinating our people into accepting “cultural Marxism” and “political correctness” — complete with multiculturalism, miscegenation, radical feminism and unnatural characterizations.
A3P stands to protect White American interests, since no other political party has shown interest in doing so. This does not make us racist, but protective of our rights – which every other race or group is encouraged and praised for doing. Discriminatory “affirmative action” programs and the invasion of illegal immigrants adversely affect the welfare of all Americans, but especially the White majority.
The goal of A3P is therefore to restore and preserve the legitimacy of White identity, White heritage, and expressions of White interests. We want to stop the divisive, orchestrated destruction of America and restore her to greatness."
For those that have been waiting for the evidence of the A3P being a White Power group there it is. While they do go out of their way to state that they are not racist, it does fall a little flat.
So there are the American Third Position polices and positions. On their website they have Position Papers which go into more detail on there views and goals.
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